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aka Kagi, Mizu, Kags, Kaggles, etc etc etc.

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February 9, 2010
  • I live in Portland, Oregon
  • I was born on June 20
  • My occupation is Future college student, present bum.
  • I am Male Mammalian


Hi, welcome to Ultimo Fanon Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the User talk:Sonicrox14 page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Genesjs (Talk) 04:33, February 9, 2010

Okay......I might (hint hint might) like.........JMBZ.........(slaps self) BAD SHIMA! BAD! BAD! Shima the Hedgehog 02:18, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

No problem.....(continues slapping self) BAD SHIMA! Shima the Hedgehog 02:23, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I can! (slaps self with other hand) Shima the Hedgehog 02:28, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

.....A lot of things...Shima the Hedgehog 02:30, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

1) Age difference 2) Remember what Twi said before? And 3) (turns red) I...still kind of like you....Shima the Hedgehog 02:35, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

1) Yeah, but I don't think my parents would be too happy... 2) Yeah. I seriously need to get over that! GRRR! 3) (hugs back) Yeah. But I'm afraid to ask him...Shima the Hedgehog 02:40, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh.And if he does, well...I'll be happy. But if I tell him, and he doesn't, I'll feel like a fool...Shima the Hedgehog 02:46, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but I didn't tell you myself. Nikkie did for me. It wouldn't be as easy if I had done it myself. Hmmm...Maybe I can ask her to do it again for me... Shima the Hedgehog 02:50, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

I know, but I can't! I'm too..... Shima the Hedgehog 02:54, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Eep! (glares) You blackmailer! (takes a deep breath) I'll...try to tell him...Shima the Hedgehog 03:00, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

(sighs) Yeah...You're right....(gulps) I-I'm going to go tell (shakes in fear) W-Wish me luck. Shima the Hedgehog 03:07, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

(still shaking) I-I hope so.... Shima the Hedgehog 03:12, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

I know! He's not messaging me back, though...(I didn't tell him just yet)Shima the Hedgehog 03:16, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

(yelling at top of voice) ItoldhimOMIcan'tbelieveIjustdidthat!!!! (takes several deep breaths) Shima the Hedgehog 03:20, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

(speechless) Shima the Hedgehog 03:23, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

(speechless, then collapses) I'm okay...Shima the Hedgehog 03:31, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

(hugs) You were right! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! Soo...(evil smile) Are you going to tell the other girl that you might like her? Huh? Huh? Are ya? Shima the Hedgehog 03:46, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

*Eye twitches* Edit

.....I could care less if we have the same goals in mind.... Your methods only concern people. My methods concerned the whole SFW in general. Sure, you may wanna to help your friends, but what if your "help" ends up destroying the one place where they can go to and listen to you, play with their fanon, talk to their friends, etc? In the end, your methods could end up doing more harm than good, especially if you're willing to take down the one man who's acting as the SFW's lifeline.... And as for Twi....I could care less if he wants to talk to us. He can go burn in hell for all I care, including you. You all have crossed the line with me, and I've had enough of your nonsense. And if you want to stay here Kag, then you will not leabe me another message on here, or else I will ban you.... Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:51, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ahhh....Wel, you never know! She might change her mind! Shima the Hedgehog 03:54, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps you didn't think my threats were real. If you want me to unban you, then you will not say anything to me for the rest of the night. Don't leave me any messages on any wikis, just shut the hell up and leave me alone. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:58, February 15, 2010 (UTC)


Running away? So what if I am? Unlike you, I'm gonna try to save my skin before you go to war with the authority figures on the SFW who oppsose your half-baked ideals. I'm leaving you all behind because you all always say that you're all capable of handling things on your own, and know absolutely everything about "right and wrong". Unfortunately, this issue isn't so black and white, like you think it is. However, I see now that it is absolutely pointless to get you to try to view other people's perspectives instead of your own, and so, I'm simply giving you the freedom to do whatever you want without any worry of interference from me. I'm doing you a favor by removing myself from the Sonic Wikis,,because now you have no one who is in a position of power to oppose you or your ideals. And as for the "damage" that I'm causing, you yourself, along with almost everyone else on the Sonic Wikis, are causing yourselves harm, I don't have anything to do with any "pain" or "disress" that anyone is suffering right now, and I never had. You, along with most of the users on the SFW, have been causing your own pain because you don't like to be opposed in any way, or have your fanon criticized, even if the people who criticize your fanon only try to help you. You're not seeing the bigger picture here, and IDT that you ever will. I am merely saving myself the trouble of wating more of my life and mental stability trying to help people who always seems to complain about something bad about them. I put myself through hell to keep you guys happy, and you all spat in my face by going against me for speaking my opinions about how to manage the SFW, just because I didn't agree with some of the things that any of you wanted to do. I was flammed for merely trying to suggest different means of managing the SFW, by you, Shelly, and even Twi and Kit. Admins are supposed to act like teams, but right now Twi and Kit are doing the exact opposite of that, and are acting on their own without even telling the other Admins what he is doing. In other words, I was told by his actions that my opinion, along with Gamer's, is no longer needed and that we are full of unrealistic crap when it comes to managing the SFW. I felt betrayed by some of my closest friends, like Gamer did, when the idea came to our minds that we were not needed by some of our friends anymore. It caused us pain, and that pain helped us open our eyes to what the SFW really is right now: A battlefield filled with soldiers who're willing to flame, harrass, and even destroy their friendships with each other in order to prove that what they say about this and that is 110% accurate. And that battlefield is getting ready to go in flames, because the troops are pulling in and bombing the crap out of everything in sight. The SFW is destroying itself because debate is speading all over it like wildfire. And that is why I am "running away" from the Sonic Wikis, because I knew that nothing that I would say to you, or anyone, could persuade you all into coming together (And I'm talking about ALL of the members of the SFW) and let the Admins decide what is best for everyone. However, since everyone has a difference in opinion for something, I seriously doubt that anything they mention to the Admins will agree with everyone else, because they would most likely speak out against each others opinions. You see, the SFW is going to war, and people are choosing sides to fight on. In your case, you have Shelly to aid you, as did I with Guy in an indirect way. The clash of debate is coming to the SFW, and the place is going to get bombed to hell, and there is nothing that anyone, not even me, can do to stop it. Sooner or later it will happen, and when it does, chaos will reign over the SFW for weeks to come. I was trying to prevent that, and follow Guys example of keeping the SFW strict and true to it's purpose. However, I failed in my mission, and the Admins now turned against each other, and the normal Users are debating about what the SFW is going to do with itself. I failed to find a logical and reasonable solution for everyone because none of them, including you, wanted to hear it, or even try it out. None of my ideas worked for them somehow, and they persisted in trying out their ideas without even trying out anyone else's first. So why should I bother trying to help a Wiki and it's members, who don't even listen to what I say? Why should I bother trying to help people on there who don't think my opinions or ideas are even logical without seriously thinking about them or trying them out first? I am "running away" from the SFW because I not only feel unappreciated for trying to help you and the others try to help turn the SFW into something glorius, I feel as though I was betrayed by some of my closest friends, because they failed to recognize what is truely important about what they are supposed to do with their power and responsibilities. They don't wanna make the SFW pure, or even try to inspire the Users to be original with their fanon. Why do you think that A LOT of people are criticzing you guys because of your fanon AND the SFW itself? Because most of the members are unwilling to try anything new with their fanon or expaned their ideas and imaginations, and you guys are putting Non-Sonic articles on a Wiki where they don't belong on, and are essentially turining the name "Sonic" in the SFW's name into "Crossover" (Or, as Guy would most likely say, "Fail"). If you all would simply try out some new ideas that actually somewhat stayed true to what the SFW was supposed to symbolize, then you guys wouldn't be getting as much criticism as you are now, and more people outside the SFW would talk about how the SFW is EPIC WIN! But you and the others are setting yourselves up for morwe criticism because you're all not even trying to stay true to the SFW's name. There are Pokemon and even Naruto articles on a SONIC Wiki. If you keep putting Non-Sonic articles on the SFW, then what the hell do you think that you're turning the SFW in to? You're all setting yourselves up for more criticism, because you, along with most of the SFW's members, are unwilling to listen to other people's opinons or try out new ideas...... I was only trying to help turn the SFW into something pure because I didn't want everyone to keep getting the criticism that they're recieving now. But I see now that my efforts are pointless. You can all do whatever you want. I'm done trying to help you guys, because most of you aren't appreciating what I was trying to do for you. You can all fend for yourselves now, do whatever you want without me ever interfering again. This is what you wanted, and don't try to lie to me, you KNOW that this is true. You wanted me gone because I opposed you and your ideals, so I'm merely granting you your wish, not as an enemy, but as a friend. You're on your own now. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:00, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

.....This is going nowhere. I'm spelling everything out for you, but you're not listening. I had good intentions too, but you classify them as nothing more than opinions. But you know something? YOU are doing things based on YOUR opinions, too. YOU think that the SFW should be run by the Users themselves, but that ideal is nothing more than an oponion as well, just like you always tell me that my ideals are only baed on MY opinions. You're just contradicting yourself by saying that you do things a certain way, when your views are based on something that YOU believe, which you say is not important when it comes to running a Wiki because it's just one person's opinion compared to the majorities. You tell me to try to listen to what the Users want on a Wiki, but you aren't even listening to your own advice. This is absolutely ridiculous....I'm talking to someone who can't even listen to HIMSELF! This is one of the reasons why I don't respect you Kag, you don't even listen to your own advice. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:39, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'm done trying to convince you of my intentions. And I'm done trying to reason with you. Like I said before, do whatever you want from now on. I banned myself from the SFW for a year, so I can't do anything on there even if I wanted to. I also had Supermorff ban me from the SNN, so I don't have to put up with you over there either. As far as I'm concerned, it's impossible for us to see eye to eye on anything, or even stay as friends. You can go ahead and think tgat I'm just having another "temporary grudge" all you like, because whether you want to believe it or not, I am NEVER coming back to the SFW, nor am I going to undo any of the "damaged" I caused either because, personally, I fail to see any evidence of there being any "damage" on the SFW because of my departure. I'm not the only person who's considering the idea of leaving the SFW, so don't go thinking that this whole issue relates only to me. I said it before, and I'll say it again: I am done trying to convince you of my intention and motives, and you may think that this is only some stupid little phase for me, but as far as I'm's over. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:59, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

"Trying to calm your friends down" won't get you anywhere. Another problem will eventually surface with them. It will never end. You're just trying to resolve some things that will never be solved. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 21:01, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

And what about the others? How will you account for them? Account for Sunny, Nero, Sharna, Shima, Ryu, or SHELLY? Do you think that they would want you to leave, just because you made, what they would most likely consider, some stupid little mistakes? Are you really going to follow my poor example and just run away from everything that you hold dear, because you don't think that you matter to anyone? Seriously....people would expect you to stay strong and not follow examples that new, naive idiots like me make. Are you really just gonna run away from it all and cause even MORE fighting and sorrow on the Wiki? Me leaving the Sonic Wikis is bad enough, because a lot of people liked me, but you would litterally double, possibly TRIPLE their pain if you leave them behind too. Soon they would leave themselves because the pain of having lost 2 awesome friends is too great. You will only be aiding in the destruction of the SFW by leaving it too! So what if you're accident prone? People still like you, and they always will! They've known you longer than they've known me, and leaving them behind will cause even MORE pain for them than the pain that I will eventually cause because of my departure! Do you REALLY want to make things worse for everyone's sense of morality? Don't follow my example you fool, just stay with your friends!! You mean more to them than you realize, and you always WILL be their idol and symbol of hope and happiness! Do you really want to make Nero depressed by leaving? Do you really want to make Sharna, Shima, Ryu, and Cam about leaving? Do you want to make SHELLY depressed AND sad about you leaving???? Think about what you're planning to do! You may think that leaving will help EVERYONE, but in the end, you'll only be doing people more harm than good! Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 21:18, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

You fool..... Vamp on the SFW already knows what you're planning to do, and he's basically said the same thing that I've said: If you leave, it will cause more fighting than before. Look, I have to go to my next class, but I want you to stay on here until I get home, and wait for me on Gamer's chat, so I can beat some sense into that thich skull of yours. As the saying goes, opposites can sometimes work well together, so maybe me, your polar opposite, will be able to help you see the error in your plan. Just stay here and wait for me, okay....? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 21:31, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

You coward! If you leave, then you'll NEVER have the chance to undo the damage that you've done! EVER!! And even if you can't undo all of it, you can still undo SOME of it at LEAST, RIGHT?!!? ....How do you expect to atone for your mistakes, even if it's only a few, if you're around to try and fix them? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 22:44, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

That is the dame damn reason why I left the SFW, and you called that kind of action cowardly! And you're basically doing the same thing that I'm doing! For crying out loud, people aren't gonna praise you if you atone for everything, people are gonna praise you for TRYING, and BEING THERE FOR THEM when they NEED A FRIEND!! That should be more than enough reason for you to stay! Did you know that I could've banned you from the SFW because of the ttrouble you've caused it? Yes, I could've banned you RIGHT THERE, but I chose not to because I knew how much you meant to everyone, even me! ME! And I consider you to be my rival! I didn't ban you because I still cared for you as a person and a friend! That's rightm even I don't want you to leave!! Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 23:05, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sigh.... Right now, you ARE causing trouble for everyone on the SFW, but you weren't before, and I'm sure that you eventually won't be again for a long time, which may start happening sometime in the near future.... Don't you want to stick around and se if your luck improves, and things once again begin to flourish on the SFW? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 23:19, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I would like for us to go back to being friends...more than anything.... And as for the SFW..... IDK if I'll ever go back, or even go back anytime soon. All of the things that happened friends threatening to leave, seeing my friends hurt and worried, being unable to help them out sometimes, people constantly complaining about things such as crossover articles and real-life drama.....the SFW has caused me a lot of harm in many left me...emotionally unstable..... It wasn't the Admin duties that were getting to me, it was the people on the SFW that were getting to me.... I need to get away from all that chaos before my mind becomes permanently damaged.... Anyway, let me try to say part of what I said in another way: If you leanve....tehn who the hell is Shelly gonna use as her human punching bag? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 23:32, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I g2g4 now. We'll finish this up later. Bye. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 23:42, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'm back. Are you still here? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:01, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I did. And I know what Shelly is gonna do to me once she finds out about all this XD (By that, I mean use the purse on me, which I don't want to happen because- A. The purse has your blood on it, and it has been reserved for you. I have no right to get whacked with it, and- B. I kinda don't like getting hit upside the head with an item that's supposed be used to carry stuff, instead of beat people with XD And what does her popularity have to do with anything? She's still your BF, and she considers you to be her BF, too. It won't matter how many people there are, because this is what's in her head when it comes to you: "No one can replace Kagi! He's my bestest buddie!". Her popularity doesn't matter to her, your friendship with her does. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:10, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I read the whole message. And IDT that you're listening to me again, therefore I'll repeat myself: IDT that Shelly would replace you with ANYONE ELSE because she likes you a lot more than she likes most people! Her life on the Wikis wouldn't be the same if you left. It won't matter if she has more friends, if you leave, then she loses her best friend. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:19, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe? You KNOW that is true. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:31, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

As far as you know. For all you know, she may care for you more than you think. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:43, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Use more than the purse? For crying out loud, I was just refering to her thinking of you as her BFF (Best Friend FOREVER!!!)! I wasn;t talking about.....that... I just meant something that relates to friendship... Anyway, I've been calm since we talked to each other while I was at achool, and while I was home earlier before I went to the movies. However, my mind is made up: I'm not going back to the SFW. It's beyond my capabilities now. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:53, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm watching the SFW right now, but I can't do aquat because I banned myself, so no one even knows that I'm there. And I'll delete this whole conversation so she doesn't know about that comment if I have to XD Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 05:06, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

(Well, Guy wasn;t even on the chat when I got back from the movies, but I'm not on the chat right now either, so it'd be kinda pointless to go there right now) Well, I'm not gonna go back right now until I know for sure that things have calmed down on the SFW. Although....that might take a while..... I looked at Shima's recent blog, and I must say I'm worried about her. IDT that she would resort to suicide, but if things get to far outta hand on that blog, then I will DEMAND that someone unban me ahead of time so I can talk some sense into her. Althoughm I do kinda wanna do that right now, but she's offline right now I'm sure, and things haven't gotten too far outta control yet, so I'm not gonna get involved unless it's become extremely serious (By that, I mean that I see her say something that could help me confirm her words when she says that she might commit suicide, or just talks about it long enough to where she starts scaring me). I need to get away from all the chaos going on at the SFW right bow, and Shima talking about comitting suicide is definately one of the things that's an example of what why others were causing me stress before. Anyway, I'm gonna try to stay away from the SFW for who knows how long (And like I said, I'm still determining whether or not I'll actually come back), but unless there's a situation going on there that literally involes life & death, I'm not getting involved with the SFW, or anyone on it under any circumstances. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 05:38, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Wehn I said that I would not talk to anyone on there, I meant that I would not talk to them on the SFW. I never said anything about not talking to them at all. And I don't wanna be unbanned just yet. I'm gonna wait until I think that everything on the SFW has been resolved before I even socider coming back to the SFW. I still need to take a break from it... Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 05:48, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe so, but unless everyone learns to think about how leaving the Wiki would affect things before they say or do anything, then IDT my my break will be temporary. I'm not gonna waste my time trying to save a place that will eventually destroy itself anyway, no matter what I do.... Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 06:07, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. It's the debate about the Wikis image that's actually destroying it. People just need to calm the heck down and continue life on there like it was before: Quiet, peaceful, and enjoyable. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 06:31, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I g2g4 the night. Good night. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 06:39, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yet anyway you need to understand that I was merely doing my job, and you flammed because of it. I talked to Twi about this and he agreed with me about the issue, and it was his, Lupe and Guy's idea to have me ban you for a few days. I wanted to only ban you for a few hours, but I decided that I wouldn't because it would eb pointless. However, they recommended that I do so, and so I did, especially since you were technically questioning my authority and ability to do my job. If you wanna go complain to someone right now, go complain to Ricco or Guy, I only did what they recommended that I should do so that yuou could cool off and remember who's in charge of the SFW. I could've just let this slide if they didn't recommend that I ban you for flamming me. But then again, I suppose that telling you this is pointless because- A. The only person who you believe is right about every freaken this is you, and-B.You're not in the mood to think rationally right now, since you are having a little hissy fit over something that's technically your fault. That arguemnt between you and me didn't ahve to occur if you simply didn't order me around and try to tell me that I was doing my job incorrectly when I actually was. But if you still wanna complain to me about my "questionable Adminship skills", then by all means have att it. I'm getting tired of being told flat out that my work around as an Admin is unecessary and is unappreciated by anyone you decide to mention in an argument. So go ahead and flame me all you like, get an army of troops and have them flame me for you, heck, get Central to take me down and ban me from all Wikis, but I was only doing my job and following orders, and I will stick by that story no matter what, no matter how much it pisses you off. So, tough luck. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 02:44, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

If all you wanted to do was prevent me from getting into another fight, then you could've just asked why I thought I had the authority to edit/delete that article before you gave me your honest opinion, therefore you wouldn't come off as telling me how to do my job when I was doing it correctly. You could've taken the time out of your busy schedule to find out some information first before telling me what I should do, if you had a problem with me doing something. All you had to do was just ask me why I thought that I had the authority to do something before you recommended that I do somehting else based on your opinion, instead of just telling me that I shouldn't be acting on my own and stuff, because you didn't know if I was actually doing somehting that I had permission to do. So yeah, you were technically going against my authority when I was just trying to do somehting good, so I aksed an Admin (Twi) if I should do somehting about you, and he said that I should ban you so you could cool the heck down. Lupe and Guy only happened to be there when I asked Twi about what to do about you, and Twi gave me permission to ban you. And if an Admin is doing an act that isn't considered to be harmful towards any users, then he/she shouldn't have his/her authority questioned because he/she is acting for the greater good. I even gave Flash a time limit, and even extended it for him because you wanted me too, and I even took the time to notify him what I was planning to do, and yet you still said that I wasn't being fair, and that was considered acting out against a higher authority and questioning his/her motives. Point is, I tried to be fair when you didn't think I was, and you were still giving me hell for my actions, so I complained because I felt that my authoirty was bein opposed/questioned needlessly, and I did based on what others recommended me to do, and that was ban you for a few days so you can calm down. And the reason I say that an Admins authority shouldn't be questioned is because the Admins/Crats are the LAW of a Wiki, and it's their job to decide what is and what isnb't allowed on a Wiki, in order to suit everyone's best interests. So basically, if you go against the Admins, you go against the whole community. And you went against me in the wrong manner, because you acted like you knew that what I was doing would cause trouble, but you never took the time to question me a little about why I was doing something and why I had the authority to back up my actions, but instead you chose to simply recommend what I should do based on your views, despite the fact that your recommendations somewhat went against some rules that were established and were enforeced by some dedicated Admins, and that's why I went against you. You apporached me in the wrong manner, in an offensive, rebelious manner, and I tried to reason with you and tell you why I believed that I had the authority to determine the date of that article, and yet you wouldn't hear any of it, and you already knew that the Admins decided to and that kind of content on the SFW bassed on how the entire community reacted to it when it became known to them. Point is, another fight could've been prevented if you simply did things a little differently, but you instead decided to act liek a smart-ass and tell me that my actions will cause an inevitable fight, and that I was digging my own grave. If you ask me, you're the idiot here, not me. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:22, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

I never said that "not questioning an Admin's authority" was a written rule, it's how you questioned me that got me a little aggitated. At first, I was only a little annoyed at you when the argument started, but since you persisted in continuing it without even doing a little detective work and ask me why I believed that I had the authority to delete that article in a way that didn't make it look like you were trying to tell me that my actions were foolish from the start. Nethertheless, you could've just stopped arguing with me and let me get into trouble if you thought that would happen, and let me learn my lesson the hard way, instead of telling me that I was acting like an idiot, digging myself a grave, and telling me that you'd be glad that you wouldn't eb the cause of another conflict, as though you would enjoy the idea of me acting as a cause for more stress on the SFW and watch me suffer as a result. In other words, you were acting a little spoiled with me by continuing to argue with me and tell me that you hoped that I'd get in trouble with the other Admins. However, depite how much you pissed me off because of that article, I wasn't going to ban you because of it, not at first. I was considering dropping this issue, but since one of my fellow Admins recommended that I'd abn you so that you could calm down and learn that it's not okay to bother an Admin who was only trying to do his job, I decided to go along with this idea and ban you. I only did this so I could help relieve some of your stress, and it's obvious that my actions on the SFW are affecting you in a negative way. I had to send you a message, which says "Arguing with someone that you don't agree with won't solve any issues that you have with him. Just simply try to act more friendly with him before telling him your honest opinion about something, or simplay state that you only wanted to make an honest opinion to begin with. If you did either one of those options, then maybe this person that you hate so much right now would've considered hearing you out, but since you didn't, you simply need to get away from the place where he is causing you so much stress and calm down before confronting him again in a much more peaceful manner". This was the message that I was trying to send you by banning you, but from what I can see the message didn't quite get through.... Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:10, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe so, but you and I need to work some things out before we both kill each other, and I think that cooling our jets a little first will help us out when we decide what we're gonna do. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:51, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Both of us? The only person who's at fault here is you, I was trying to do my job and you gave me hell on how to do it properly. And Flash shouldn't have gotten pissed at me to begin with, because the decision to clean up any articles that have been deemed to have inappropriate content in them was made several months ago, and I recall Flash being aware of that decision when it was made. The only problem I have with Flash is that he had forgotten the orders that all Admins were asked to follow after the RP incident, and I fail to see how it's my fault that Flash forgotten about this several month-old decision. I once again repeat myself in saying that I was only following orders, and I fail to see how I should be held accountable for others forgetting what the other Admins have decided to do with the SFW's content, including some Admins who, as they claim, "Prefer to work alone". And as for my 3 day ban, unless any of the other Admins agree with you on this suggestion, IDT that it's gonna happen. Besides, I'm needed to look out for trouble that could occur on the SFW, and right now I am needed in order to help preserve the peace, so I need to be on the SFW as much as I can. You just need to accept the fact that you are guilty of starting a fight with an Admin who was only trying to do his job, and follow orders which, for some reason, are very easy for others to "forget". And you can still talk to me on the chat rooms, but I seriously doubt that I'm going to get a 3 day ban too because of this incident. I will tell Twi about your recommendation, but you shouldn't expect everything to go your way in this manner. You can't expect everyone to listen to your ideas just because you want them too, and that's a fact. Anyway, I'll tell Twi about your recommendations, but don't count your chickens before they hatch. And stop holding me accountable for everyone complaining to me about how to do my job, just because they simply "forgot" about what the Admins have decided to do because of how the entire majority reacted to a situation, and how that very situation posed a threat to the SFW and it's members. I'm busting my ass trying to not only enforce the newly established rules on the SFW, I'm also trying to prevent some of the SFW's members from ebing exposesd to things that they shouldn't be on the SFW. I seriously believe that the last thing that everyone wants is to have people (Even the SFW members' parents, or parents in general, and possibly other people in general) say that the SFW is an inappropriate site, despite the fact that it's about a video game series that's supposed to be okay for kids. And I seriously believe that many others would expect the SFW to be appropriate too, since people who are as young as 10 (At least) go on there. A lot of people (Including you) don't realize it, but I'm doing you and the SFW a huge favor by trying to be a role model for all the SFW's members, young and old, and I hate the fact that I'm feeling that my efforts to try to keep the SFW safe and appropriate are unappreciated. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:20, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

I think that it's 100% obvious to me now that you will never listen to anything that I have to say, becaue all you're doing is ignoring me and having me repeat myself over and over. So I'm just gonna give up and let you dig your own grave. And as for Nero, IDK where the hell he is. His ban has expired some time ago, but I fail to see how it is my fault that he hasn't shown up since he's been banned. For all we know, he could've had his computer taken away for some reason, so don't go blamming me for every single person that disappears just because I've banned them. And like I said, I'm getting tired of arguing with you because I see now that it's completely pointless and is a waste of my time. So let me draw the line here. We both have different ways of doing things, and neither of us can accept that fact and stop antagonizing the other person just because that person doesn't agree with the other person's methods. So here's what I'm going to do: I'm going to contiue doing what I have been doing, but never take your opinions into account anymore, since you never do so for me. From now on, you handle things your way, and I'll handle things my way. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 21:16, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Shima has been on since yesterday (I think), and IDK about Sharna. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 23:34, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Has Sharna ever told you what she thought about you recently?Because if she hasn't, then maybe you should know that she told some people, including myself, what she thought of us, "just in case I never come back", according to Sharna herself. She told me that her mother would take the Internet away from her if she found out about the SFW, so she wanted to tell some people what she thought about them in case that does happen and she loses the Internet. IDT that this has anything to do with why she hasn't been on lately, but maybe she's just doing other things, or maybe she's going onto another website. Anyway, has Sharna even talked to you at all lately? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 23:44, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hiding here, are you...? Edit

You still seem to have some rage to let out on me by the look of things. A word of advice; instead of being such a wuss, come say what you have to say to my face. --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 00:08, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Huh. Well, IDK why she hasn't been on for the past few days, so IDK what to tell ya.. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 01:46, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

What now? =/ Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 01:55, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, then allow me to ease some of your stress by leaving you alone for a while. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 02:09, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well Kagi you should of thought of that before deciding to run your mouth about me behind my back. --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 15:27, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Oh? Do you have any evidence to back up that claim of yours? Or are you just saying random crap without thinking, as per usual? --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 01:26, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if you've noticed or not, but at the moment I have had Gen ban me until the 20th of march; I cannot post on the Wiki. And even so, those users I've insulted have either a) left, b) don't come to the chat, or c) already know I dislike them. And what about the SFW fails thread? I haven't directed any heat towards any of the members; only the Wiki in general. --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 01:38, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

... Do you even understand what you're saying? You're saying I'm talking about the Wiki behind people's backs? That would be a "no"; People already know I dislike the wiki in general. Infact, it was even in one of my blog posts. Like I said, it's not my fault that I can't say what I want to say on the Wiki, because I've been banned from it. You, however, have no excuse; you just choose to hide and avoid me, while at the same time running your mouth off about me and others. And as said before, people know what I've said on the FTCR forums; Sharna even went and submitted a link to the topic at one point, both on the Wiki and the chat box. Your side of the debate doesn't hold water, I'm afraid. Am I still the "pathetic attempt of a smartass"? --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 02:00, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Interesting; so you go make remarks about us without us knowing because you can't handle our remarks because you're no wise nor witty enough to make a comeback? Not only are you weak but you're a wuss. Though what I find humourous is that you said "We don't listen". Could you not be anymore of an ignorant simpleton? You said we should find a way to restore the roleplays and in a case in which wouldn't reveal the remarks made on a few of them. What did we do? We realocated them to the forum. What happened when you caused a ruckus on the Wiki? of that's right; I was the first person to stand by you. But of course, you yourself don't listen, so that makes you a hypocrite. Need evidence? Sure, where to start... ah okay; We decided to delete the three roleplays that were against the ToS. What did you do? You bitched, and you moaned, and you cried, until eventually you decided to gather the rest of those dimwitted people you call your friends on your side; how selfish could you possibly get? Or when we wanted to make the Wiki a pure wiki, what did you do? Not only did you bitch, and whine, and cry, and again rally those moronic members to your cause, you even went against our decision by making MORE articles. I'm surprised you haven't been permanently banned from the Wiki, because sure as hell if i was still an admin you would be, and I'd have all the ammunition i'd need to do so. But then again, if I did we all know what would happen; you'd bitch, and moan, and cry and complain, and then rally the other members to your cause like you did before. At the end of the day Kag; you're not an admin, so don't impose on us like you are one. --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 02:58, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

"and a 23 year-old who gets a kick out of belittling people 5 or even 10 years younger than him, just because their fanfics don't meet his standards."... what? Yeah, you really are just talking whatever shit comes to mind, aren't you? But to the point Kag, you said that you listen to your members, and that you base your decisions off the majority... That's what WE did. Out of the whole wiki, th only people who didn't like the idea was you, Ryushu, and Chembur. That was it. Get your damn facts correct before trying to criticize how I do my job, which I've been doing for over ten years on numerous forums and sites; far, far longer than you have. --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 03:42, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's that kind of ignorance that you display which leads me to believe that you will never rise up to the standards of being an admin. You think that only being an admin on wikis is important? You have so much to learn, and yet your ignorance hinders your progression to such a degree that whatever I or anyone else can teach you is impossible. I truly do pity you. --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 15:44, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hm, you say you don't care... but that's all empty words. --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 16:58, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

And the only way you can maintain your self-esteem is by uttering words and sentences that are merely constructed to fool yourself. You say you dont care about what I say; you say that you're happy the way you are; you say that you don't want to change... That's just all one big lie to convince yourself that what you do is fine with the rest of the world. Did you not, on three seperate occasions, cry and bask in sympathy when you thought that all you did was cause fights and other various strands of trouble, and even stated you would leave the wiki? You are in ignorance of your own actions and are unaware of the consequences of your stubborness, until it is too late. It is because of you that the wiki has fallen into disarray, and yet you still clinch to the philosophy that you are fine how you are and you dont want to change... I say "Dont want to change", but are unwilling to change, despite the burdens you have caused the Wiki. Perhaps one day, you will have the knowledge and wisdom to be able to grasp why I do what I do, but I doubt that day will come soon. As is the nature of mankind, you do not understand the severity of the prolonged course, until it becomes too late to do anything to change it. --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 17:53, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Interesting. You are aware of the commotion you caused and even felt guilt towards them, and yet you still continue down this path because you dislike wanting to change. Your age does not excuse you from your decision-making; there are many people much younger than you that display great wisdom, and yet it lies in something so simple that everyone can do it, but only a handful of people will do it, and that's to open up and look at the bigger picture, which unfortunately mankind cannot seem to do as a collective, as demonstrated throughout the ages, and the same is happening now; people are too wallowed in their own selfish needs and emotions that they cannot look past their own selves. Why is it you are still reading this? Quite simple; what I say is true, but you've yet to admit it. --Black Judgment of Guyviroth 18:30, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

And I thought that you've abandoned ship as well XD Believe me, I want to keep this place, but....I'm just surprised there hasn't been any activity here in like...over a whole month.... 0.0' But yeah, I know that Wikis can be put up for adoption if there hasn't been any activity done on them in a certain amount of time. Heck, I thought that you and Shelly would still use this place to chat XD Anyway, I guess this would be a good time to do some work on this Wiki's front page, make it look professional by the time I place this Wiki on the Wiki Spotlight or advertize about it in some other way... :P Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:12, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

True... And no I haven't, I'll have to read it! IDK if I can though, since I'm on the school computers right now, and IDK if One Manga would be blocked on here, too. I'll try to get on there anyway, if I can. Is chapter 14 good? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:59, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Okay... XP Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 19:13, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Crap! I can't access One Manga on here! It's blocked on this computer...

"Your organization has chosen to limit viewing of this site (, due to the rating of its content (profanity,entertainment).

If you feel that you have received this page in error, please contact: Your System Administrator"

Stupid school computers! >:O Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 19:15, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'll reply. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 19:22, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Be sure to add me to your ideas about who's responsible, and I'm sure you'll be right. Anyway, from what I can remember, me Gamer, Twi (I think. IDR where Guy was around the time) were having a conversation about how Kit always treats Gamer like some kind of pest, so me and her protested to Twi about it, and we got frustrated because we couldn't come to ANY kind of compromise with Kit. Anyway, Kit eavesdropped on us and probably misunderstood our intentions and therefore left Gamer's chat because she apparently got the idea that we were ganging up on her without any reason, and that was pretty much the last time I saw her. It happened a while ago, so I don't remember much, but I'm pretty sure that Kit's absence has something to do with her overreacting to something. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 19:31, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Kit's pretty much...disappeared.... From both the chat rooms we go to AND the SFW. Keeping Kit and Gamer away from each other is easy, but it's too easy. IDK where the heck Kit goes to know, but she said it herself that she would not talk to me and Gamer anymore the last time she talked to us. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 19:52, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

No I haven't, but she never replied back to me on my TP, so I have no clue where the situation is going right now. And I thought we were talking about Kit? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:01, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

I am trying, I just don't know what I can try that would actually work. I'm trying what you suggest and I'm waiting to see how things go. It's not like I'm not trying, I'm just trying to think thoroughly about how I do things. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:07, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

My mind can hardly ever think simply. Anyway, I'll be real glad when I get out today. I wanna go home... Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:14, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm gonna need it... Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:20, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Kagi, what the hell is your problem?! I told you that the issue between Gamer and Kit is nothing for you to stick your nose into, and further more, you are completely wrong about what is making Kit feel bad, so quit gossiping here where you think we don't see you! What are, a gossiping school girl?! --Money Maker' File:Kakuzu.gif 02:07, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Call me crazy (paranoid even), but I think that Donald Duck seems a bit hell bent on giving you, me and Shelly payback. His comments toward Shelly on Multiverseman's blog have me thinking that I sense biterness outta him, and he's even going to Super and asking to be promoted to Rollback without yours, Shelly's, or any of the other Admin's consent. He's even making us sound like we attacked him for no reason. IDK about you, but I think that we should straighten up our attitude towards Donald Duck on the SNN, otherwise he may use what we say to him against us. If there's one person out of all of us I'm worried about the most, it's Shelly. I can understand that she dislikes Donald Duck like the both of us probably do, but she's even made Slugdrones go to Super and tell him why she should be stripped of her Crat/Admin status. I really think that we need to get a lid on our tempers and lips ASAP if all 3 of us are gonna prevent our butts from getting handed to us by a couple of immature users. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 02:23, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

But it's Shelly I'm really worried about. I know that you haven't done anything in order to make Donald Duck (I know that you coined that one, I just feel like that's a suitable nickname for him) say that you did attack him for no reason, but i'm concerned about Shelly saying something to him which could be used against here and get her in trouble. I wouldn't be mentioning this issue unless I felt as though there was danger invovled. I'm just saying that maybe we should keep our cool when we're dealing with him, and therefore when he speaks out against us (even if we don't break any rules) then the possibility of him getting banned will increase. I'm also a bit concerned about Slug though, because he's very defensive of Disco, and like I just said, he suggested to Super taht she should be removed from her Crat position because of how she acted on the nominations page on the SNN. In other words, I'm saying that I know that Slug knows how to look at what people say carefully and use whatever we say against us. Point is, I'm saying that Disco has allies, and if we're not careful we could be the ones that end up looking bad. If we keep our cool around Disco, then Slug will have no evidence to use against us, and Disco will become an easier target for banning. I want Shelly to know about this because I know that both Slug and Disco are after her skin. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:06, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

I hope so.... Anyway, I might have a possible theory as to why 58 supports Disco. Sometime ago, I recall seeing Disco leaving 58 a message one day saying that he's a fan of 58, and the conversation went on from there. Apparently, 58 seems to think that there's this good side to Disco which we refuse to see. Apparently Disco's brainwashing has worked well, since 58 goes out of is way to defend Disco whenever he gets into any messes of any kind. My first theory is that 58 supports him because Disco sweet-talked him. I have another theory, but without solid evidence I'd be stupid to even mention it. Anyway, if that's true, then Shelly should technically have a very good understanding of the rules. I trst Shelly's judgements about Disco, but I just can't help but suggestto at least one of ou that we should probably play the game safe in case things suddenly make a turn for the worse. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:23, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

If you think that I'm thinking that those two might be dating or something, that's not it. My other theory is that, since they both seem very eager to acquire Adminship status on the SNN and seem to want control on how things work around there, that they might be working together to aquire positions of power on the SNN. However they kept convrsations that could support this theory (asuming that there were conversations of the sort at all) on another Wiki in which we know nothing about. Another part oof me is thinking that those two are just hungry for powe on the SNN, and 58 may be supporting Disco because, if Disco became an Admin, he could apply some of 58's policies fo him until he beomes an Admin himself, or it could be vice versa. They could be supporting each other so they could get Adinship on the SNN. Besides, if Disco and 58's attitude towards me expressing 'my opinions about certain matter and their beliefson how the SNN should be run aren't at least some evidence that could help support thistheory, the IDK what will. Besides, they act like they know what makes Admins on all Wikis. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:53, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lemme guess... This is Ironic because in the past we were at each others throats and now we're working together as a team? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:02, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

YOu and Shelly thought I was a danger and kept an eye on me, and now me, the dangfer which you once suspected, is acting as one of your alies? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:16, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

What am I missing here? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:24, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Mm. Anyway, I g2g take a shower. I trust that you'l be able to handle things on the SNN? Anyway, BRB. But if you go to bed, then I'll probably see you tommorow. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:39, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

What part of "Stop it" ir "Knock it off" don't you F****** understand?! >:( Why do I exist...? 01:19, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's not even about my lack of confidence! You don't understand. Why do I exist...? 10:52, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, 1) We'll never see each other. 2) My grades are slipping badly. 3) Maybe I just don't want to be in a relationship anymore! It's too much!

There. That's why. Get it? Why do I exist...? 17:46, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Are you me? No, you're not. Do you know how I feel? No, you don't. I don't put in all my feelings on these damn wikis! You don't know how I feel about J now! And don't even say you do! 'Cause you don't. Why do I exist...? 21:29, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

No, I don't want to be in a relationship anymore. I'm sick of love. Sure, I may still have feelings for J, but they aren't as strong as they used to. Gotta go. I'm probably not going to talk to you later. Why do I exist...? 21:37, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Everything! Knowing I have lots of guys at my school now wanting to go out with me now that I'm single, I don't want to love any guy ever again! And the Shima you knew is long gone. For good. Why do I exist...? 00:30, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

No, she's gone. I killed her. Why do I exist...? 00:34, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

...The truth is...he's...too emotional for me.. Why do I exist...? 00:39, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

He got so emotional when I said I was taking a break from RPs. He thought I meant I was quitting, and I had to tell him about 50 time that I wasn't going to quit. Same thing when I said I needed a break from the wiki. It got really annoying. Why do I exist...? 00:44, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

.... Depends. What is it? Why do I exist...? 00:46, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

That's going to be hard because he just left the SFW. Why do I exist...? 00:50, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, he came back. I'll try.. Why do I exist...? 00:55, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

I told him I'll think about it. Why do I exist...? 01:06, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Let me take a guess: Because he loves me and wants me to be happy. Why do I exist...? 01:10, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

No, because I had to break up with one because I moved, and another because he cheated on me. Why do I exist...? 01:13, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Some people I know, but I'm not going to talk about them. Why do I exist...? 01:17, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

It does. Why do I exist...? 01:23, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, and remember, it's not gauranteed. Why do I exist...? 01:26, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

You never know. Don't get your hopes up, Kagi. Why do I exist...? 01:30, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Right. Good night, Kagi. Why do I exist...? 01:33, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Right.. Why do I exist...? 01:36, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Uh-huh.. Why do I exist...? 01:39, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to tell Jonnathan that I don't want to be in a relationship. Why do I exist...? 23:45, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

..... I changed my mind. I'm not interested in a relationship. Like I said, I already have a couple guys going after me. Besides, my feelings are....out of control at the moment. Why do I exist...? 23:49, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Um, no. It's not. Why do I exist...? 23:52, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's not like that!! >:( You don't understand how I feel, Kagi. Why do I exist...? 23:55, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

.... It's like when I liked you, but then I also liked J. Makes me feel like a s**t. Why do I exist...? 23:58, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

No, I can handle it. I'm just going to lock my feelings in a box and never open it. Why do I exist...? 00:02, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

(shakes head) No. It seems like it's good for me. That way, I won't hurt anybody. Why do I exist...? 00:04, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Like I said, it was like when I liked you and also liked J. Exaclty the same sistuation. But I don't want to go through it all over again. Why do I exist...? 00:09, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, no. Why do I exist...? 00:12, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

One's in my grade and the other....(shakes head) I promised myself no online dating after this. Why do I exist...? 00:17, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

I told him I don't want to be in a relationship right now, which is the truth. Why do I exist...? 00:22, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

I just told him my feelings are out of wack right now. Why do I exist...? 00:26, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think he did. Why do I exist...? 00:30, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

I know.. Why do I exist...? 00:35, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

You know...I really don't want to be in a relationship. I don't know why you two don't get it! Sure, I still have feelings for J, but...I have new ones now. I thinks it's best that I don't see anyone anymore. J will just have to get that. Why do I exist...? 17:19, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

No I don't!!! >:( I don't need to sort everything out! I DON'T! Just leave me alone, okay?! >:( Why do I exist...? 17:22, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

No, I'll never be ready for another relationship. Me and J didn't even know each other for that long before we got together! I don't think I was ready, seeing that I broke up with another guy only months before! I don'Why do I exist...? 17:30, May 26, 2010 (UTC)t want another relationship until I get older, and that's that. nothing, and I mean, NOTHING is changing my mind. Why do I exist...? 17:30, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but the love isn't as strong as it was before. No deal. Why do I exist...? 17:37, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

I want to break it off. Look, I do care about J's feelings, but.. He'll just be better off with someone else. Trust me. Why do I exist...? 17:46, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

No, it isn't! I don't need a f****** break! I don't know why I fell in love with him in hte first place, but now the feelings aren't as strong as they used to be! Now leave me alone, or I swear, thew next person you will see leaving you a message will not be me, but my mom. And I mean it. Why do I exist...? 22:05, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

And that will be not for a long time. I'm not getting back with J, and that's final. Why do I exist...? 22:26, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

......Even if I'm not pissed, I refused to be pushed back into a relationship. Why do I exist...? 22:36, May 26, 2010 (UTC)


Good. Why do I exist...? 23:15, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Fine by me! Why do I exist...? 23:20, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Water Nymph Studios 02:27, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry that this reply is probably VERY late. -_-'

Mmkay. Water Nymph Studios 02:31, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

The others have to be made aware of this so no one can say we've done something behind anyone's back. If you want to make your case, do it where everyone can see it. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 00:14, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Fine. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 00:18, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Seeya. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 00:20, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

In what? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:03, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, me, Shelly and co. are confronting Mult on the SNN Shout Box right now. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:10, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I know you were. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:32, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Go ahead. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:35, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have a problem as long as these articles shjow proof of their connection to Sonic Fanon, so I guess you can bring those articles back... You should make a blog about this on the SFW and see what the others think though, just for extra feedback. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:50, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Still, we should do it fairly, and let the others have a say. And as for the Pokemon Rouges, I won't have a problem if that is connected to Sonic Fan fiction too. Anything that isn't tied to Sonic fanon (Like Pokemon articles, both canon and fanon), then I won't go for it. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:02, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, just keep in mind that this is an entire community that you're talking to, and not just a group of people. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:18, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

IDK. Enlighten me. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:22, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ryu? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:29, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

If you want, but like i said, get everyone else's thoughts about this too. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:34, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see what the problem will be if there will not be any Pokemon attack articles, Pokemons articles without ties to Sonic fanon, and Fanon NOT tied to Sonic fanon. Just remember that we allow crossovers, but not non-Sonic related fanon, or canon information in General. Anyway, I g2g, seeya. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:41, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Why can't you ever talk to me on these matters on SFW? And since Guy has done a lot of work on the SFW and has the job of handling the Front Page, his temporary Adminship has been made permanent. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 23:21, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

The Wiki is still being edited universally, so no one besides the Admins is going to do any editing on the front page unless given permission to do so otherwise. Furthermore, does the fact that Guy is the New Featured User tell you anything? And we're not gonna add the "What's New?" section because that section should be reserved for announcements and any news relating to SFW which are announced by Admins. It shouldn't be used like a blog, because we can announce that we're going to Las Vegas on our Blogs or User pages. Furthermore, a lot of the other Admins have been working along well with Guy and appreciates his help, so you've got a lot of nerve to tell me to have someone demoted even though they have more than enough experience and that his work speaks for itself. We're not gonna demote him and put him through an election because of his "criminal record" on the SFW. Stop trying to order me what to do just because you don't like who's in charge. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 00:24, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm already doing so on YouTube! Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 01:50, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks..Shiam really needs some cheerring up and convincing, and i need all the help I can get. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 02:02, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think i might be getting somewhere on my end, but we should keep at it until we know for sure that she IS feeling better. It'd be unwise for us to stop just because she says she feels better, because what if she really isn't? Itsw not that i don't trust Shima, its just... Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 02:19, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

IDK, but you're talking to one person who has a habit of doing that. I just wanna keep showering Shima with comfort and support for a good long while, so I can be sure that she's gotten over this issue. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 02:28, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

What's wrong with your dog? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 02:37, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

That's not should take him to the vet... Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:09, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I understand how you feel. I almost lost a pet myself once before. However, what you can hope to do now is pray that your dog will make it through the night and give him as much love as you possibly can, should the worst happen. That way, your dog will remember spending time with you. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 03:20, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well, we're thinking of making "What's New" a news section for SFW-related news, if I recall. Why not make a blog about it? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:05, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well everyone can achieve the same level of announcement in other ways to, so its not a big loss. ANywa, I g2g4 the night. Seeya, and try to spend some time with your dog. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 04:31, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Dear dear dear... Edit

Have you still not learned yet, Kag? No admin on the SFW will lift a finger to me because, contrary to your belief, I have done nothing wrong. But, in any case, I've come to let you know that if you want changes to the front page, you come to ME; the front page is my area and no one else's, besides Schoolbus who is giving me a helping hand. If you have suggestions, queries or ideas on what to add, you say them to me. No one else. have a nice day ^^ --File:Th AfroNinjaSP.gifBlack Judgment of GuyvirothFile:Afroninja.gif 17:19, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Oh well maybe you should get your head out of the clouds and back to reality. The front page is managed by me, so get that through your skull as soon as possible, and no, the users don't decide crap on what happens with the wiki; that's what the staff is there for. --File:Th AfroNinjaSP.gifBlack Judgment of GuyvirothFile:Afroninja.gif 19:12, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I never said you were looking for a fight, and I couldn't care less about how I should of been decided as an admin; the featured sections were set up by me and thus should be handled by me, however I can't change it unless I'm a sysop because those sections are protect to admins only. However, what I am noticing is that you're talking about me behind my back. Again. I shouldn't be surprised; that's how all cowards work, I guess; Artemis is no different. But, in this instance, if you want to discuss about the front page, there is no one else for you to talk to. Like I said, the front page is my area, and anything that changes on it goes through me. Have you finally understood what I'm saying to you? --File:Th AfroNinjaSP.gifBlack Judgment of GuyvirothFile:Afroninja.gif 23:31, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I've no need to talk behind people's backs. If I have a problem or an opinion of someone I'll say it to them; I don't go raving to someone else like you do to Gen. And you might not agree, but in the end, who does it negatively affect? No one, that's who; you're making it a problem for the sake of making it a problem, and don't need to, and trust me, if you brung this up on the Fanon Wiki, what are you going to do? You'll just upstage another riot; something no one needs nor appreciates. --File:Th AfroNinjaSP.gifBlack Judgment of GuyvirothFile:Afroninja.gif 23:40, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

We had a riot over the admin's lack of doing their job properly. We had a riot because someone got banned who everyone liked. We had a riot because we wanted to delete pokemon attack pages. All three of them, instigated by you. You honestly think another riot won't break out, especially with your track record? Also, you can talk to me; you just end up with a bad mood and a headache because you can't take "no" for an answer, something you have a lot of problem doing. Also, you always get upset because you think we should run our wiki like how SNN is run. News flash; this isn't SNN. We do things differently. As soon as you accept that, the better. --File:Th AfroNinjaSP.gifBlack Judgment of GuyvirothFile:Afroninja.gif 23:55, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, there was a second riot, can't remember what it was about; Artemis got banned during the riot anyway. But, back to the point, it may not of been your intention, but it happens. Have you still not realized that SFW is compromised of whiny children and young teenagers who only care for themselves? They don't care about anything apart from their own articles. And, what major issues? We've had one major issue and that was about the pokemon attacks, which was held in front of every single user; not only did the Pro Purge people win, but the people against the purge acted in a manner so childish, so fucking disgusting that I wouldn't even expect it from my snotty younger cousin. Things like if we should add a "What's New?" Section is NOT a major issue. If someone has an announcement they want to make, they can make a blog for it; that's what blogs are there for. If we let every Tom, Dick and Harry make their own "announcements", we'll have a clusterfuck of random crap that makes the front page look like a dump; the main reason why the front page was changed to begin with. --File:Th AfroNinjaSP.gifBlack Judgment of GuyvirothFile:Afroninja.gif 00:07, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

... It takes hard work to write a damn paragraph about an attack which takes NO effort to do, because the attack has already been described on Wikipedia, so it's just a case of just changing some words around. That takes no hard work at all. It can't even be considered "Work". But for the main conversation, yes I guess there is no point. I've said my piece, you've said yours, all fine and dandy. --File:Th AfroNinjaSP.gifBlack Judgment of GuyvirothFile:Afroninja.gif 00:20, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please, hear me out... Edit

Hey, Kag. Just hear me out before you erase this, please.I don't hate you, and I think you're a great person. That's why I don't wanna us to be fighting like this. I know you're a great friend in many areas, but.. try to understand why Gen left, please. I left because I have so much real life drama, I can't afford to take on any more. He did it for the same reason. He didn't turn his back on everyone; if he stayed, he probably wouldn't gotten too stressed, and things wouldn't have gone well. Please try to understand. I don't hate you, and I don't want to be enemies, but Gen is my friend, and you're causing him unneccessary stress right now. Please, leave him alone. It's his choice, and he already did it. Try to see things from his point of veiw first. Understanding the other person's point of veiw is very helpful to being a great friend. Before you judge somone, try and see things from their point of veiw.Please, just listen to me. I know I may seem rude, but that's how I am; if someone messes with my friends, I get defensive- if I should be. Try to understand, please.... I don't blame you if you hate me, and I'm deeply sorry if you do. I really wish we could get along, and at least be able to tolerate eachother, but I can't do that if you're hurting one of my closest friends.. I know you don't know me well, but I'm a very forgiving and understanding person, so I'm not holding anything against you. Miho the Cat 20:09, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

... Okay. But let me tell you this. He doesn't try to get sympathy from people. I hate to be rude again, but you're the one being freakin rude right now. Gen made up his mind to leave, and he did. If you can't respect his decision, and leave him alone, you're the one at fault. It doesn't matter if you don't like it, it's his decision. And he writes journal entries on DA to vent out his feelings, not to get sympathy from people. He tried to find a way to hide them, but on DA you can't, so don't you freakin dare tell me he's trying to get sympathy from people. I don't know why you have to be such an idiot about this. I want to be friendly about this, and stay on good terms with eachother, but if you can't try to listen, then that's not gonna happen. And IDC what Gen tells me; as long as you bother him, I'm gonna tell you to leave him alone. He knows that. IDK why you can't understand his life is almost hell on earth, and he can't ever escape on the freakin internet anymore, because right now somebody keeps bugging him about something that's already been said and done. Leave him the hell alone, Kag. Please. I want to try and solve this peacefully, I really do, but you're making it really hard for me to do so. Miho the Cat 05:46, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying. What I need to tell you though, is this. This is my reason for leaving SFW. I left because it was stressing me out too much. I couldn't handle it. If I were to stay and help, the stress probably would have made me become mentaly unstable, and cause me to snap at even the closest of friends. That would only make things worse, and I'd most likely say alot of things I didn't mean, and wind up losing good friends. And I truely believe the same would happen to Gen. We're very similiar, and we both left for the same reason. You have no idea how much he truely cares about his friends, but it would only hurt him, and eventually them, if he had stayed. He didn't want to leave; he felt really bad about it. But he had to do what was best. What good would it have been if he had stayed, but only became more stressed out? I doubt that would help much, since he literaly doesn't have anywhere peaceful to go to anymore, and the fact he has managed to still keep his sanity amazes me. If I had his life, I'd be mentaly insane. And I truely am a bit confused... what exactly do you even want him to do? You said yourself that SFW is doing better, and even I can see things look pretty peaceful as of now. Miho the Cat 06:14, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Mm.. Well, I know right now, I know he needs a break. If things stay calm there, and we can be pretty sure the place won't go to hell, then I wouldn't be surprised if he came back. But as of now, he needs a break. I do too, because I know how easy it is for wars to break out there. If I can be as sure as possible that things are fixed, I'd love to come back someday, I really would. But I'm gonna need to be sure that there's a very small chance of stuff like that happening again. Besides, Gen can talk to his friends there at other places, am I right? Other Wikis and websites. I honestly hope one day I can be sure that things will stay better there, and that I'll come back, and maybe Gen will as well.Miho the Cat 06:48, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Pfft, come on. Anyone who knows Gen knows they can come to him when they need help. If they don't, that's their decision. Don't tell me he's not reliable, when he goes out of his way to get on a computer when he knows I'm not feeling well, just to make sure I'm okay. He's stayed up later than he was allowed to, just to stay by my side and make sure I was okay when I got really depressed. He risked getting in trouble, just because I needed help, and I didn't even ask for it. He'll do almost anything to help his real friends if they need it, so don't you tell me he isn't reliable. Hell, he's pretty much the only person on the internet I can rely on not completely snap under pressure. Everyone else could throw me away like I was nothing. Miho the Cat 07:17, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't blame him. Honestly, I don't find many people on SFW to be worth my time, or his. He doesn't deserve to put up with that crap, and people should be at least a little more concerned about someone who almost wrecked himself emotionaly to save that place. If you ask me, there are certain people who don't deserve the time he could give them, unless they become a bit more considerate about him, over themselves. I find so many immature people boo hooing over themselves, and it's pathetic. If he's willing to go out of his way to help everyone else, they should at least try to do the same for him. If is was up to me, I'd tell him to stay away from there. After all he's tried to do for them, and all that that place did to him, IDT many people actually deserve his time or efort. Miho the Cat 07:37, October 17, 2010 (UTC) *Sighs* I g2g to bed... I'll respond as soon as I can tomorrow.

Geez, took me long enough to get back on here... -_-' And please, I know this is long, but please take the time to read this whole thing through carefuly, please. Anyway, I wanna ask you something. What do you think a friend is? I'm curious, cause it seems everyone seems to have slightly different veiws than others. In my oppinion, a friend is someone who I know the main things about them(name, main things they like, stuff like that), and who I can get along with. But a true friend, is someone who I know would never leave my side no matter what happens. Whether I get really emotional when I get depressed, when I get so ticked off I say things I don't mean, etc. Truthfully, I only have four people in the wolrd I consider to be true friends. Three in real life, and Gen. Oh, and so this can make sense, FYI, when I get emotional/depressed, I tend to say alot of things I don't mean, and I literaly can't help it most of the time. And I wind up hating myself later... but anyway. Those four friends wouldn't leave my side no matter what I do, if I'm truely sorry about what I did. You wouldn't believe how much they care about me, and how much I care about them. We're always there for eachother, and no matter what happens, we always forgive eachother. To me, that, is a true friend. Most people don't seem to like me, as much as I try to get along with them. Somehow, I always seem to say something that upsets them(IDK how), and no matter how much I appologize, for I didn't even mean to upset them, they never let it go. That's happened so many times I can't count all of them. Point is, Gen didn't abandon his friends. He still talks to the ones that are everywhere but SFW. In fact, alot of people there weren't really friends. They rarely talked to him at all, and only came to him when they needed him. That's not how true friendship works. He was literaly being emotionaly torn apart by SFW, Kag... please listen to me. Gen is a very close friend of mine, and we both are very similair, and we know eachother very well. When the first "wiki war" as I call it started, he got really stressed out. He spent so much of his time and effort trying to fix something for everyone else, when I wanted him to just forget it. I didn't tell him that though, because I know it meant something to him. At one point he was so stressed out, I was literaly afraid that he wasn't going to recover. I was truely afraid I was never going to know the happy, friendly person I once knew. In fact, I was afraid he was never even gonna be happy again. But finaly, it stopped. I was so relieved he got better.. that wrecked me emotionaly as well, but not as much as it did him. He cared so much about that place, when all it was doing was tearing him apart. And then it happened again. Again, I was scared. Scared I had lost my friend again. But then he left, and I was relieved. His real life and school problems were already causing him stress, and now he couldn't even escape on the internet. I wanted to beg him to leave, but I knew he cared about the place. I was glad to see him leave, because I was truely worried about his mental state. He had become very stressed, and wasn't the cheerful, optomistic friend I once knew. He doesn't want to come back, because along with the good memories, there's also alot of bad ones, ones that we both can't get over. He can still talk to thoses same people elsewhere, so he didn't abandon them. His life right now, is hell. I truely cry at night some times, because I can't do anything to help him. His life at home, his school, and now even the internet; he doesn't have anywhere peaceful to go anymore... and I'm afraid this time he might never recover... Kag, please listen to me... even if you don't care about Gen at all, if you care about me even just a little, please leave Gen alone, please... I'm pretty much in tears right now... there's nothing more I can do to help him anymore, and I'm one of the only the people who he can really count on anymore.... Kagi, please.. I'm begging you, please leave him alone... I swear everything I've told you here is the honest truth. Gen needs friends to be there for him right now, and he really donesn't have many... I'm really worried about him, Kag... all I want is for him to be happy again,, like he used to be, and to not have to dread every day of is life.. no one should have to live like that. Just please try to understand what he's going through, life is really tough for him right now.. please try to understand... Miho the Cat 01:04, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

... don't you even dare. Listen, I'm really best friends with a boy my age in real life as well, okay? Heck, I might've had a crush on him at one point, but I can handle my own love life, and I'd really appreciate if people would alow me to do so. Besides, I seem to be different, as in I think of my close friends as family. And please don't try to change the subject. Point is, I'm seriously concerned about his mental health right now, like I was awhile ago with one of my real life BFF's. You wouldn't believe how busy she is. And now, I'm more worried, cause she might have to have surgery on her knee. I've known her for more than six years now, and she was the first real freidn I ever had. Look, I just care about my friends alot, okay? I'll stay up late crying and praying for them if life isn't going well for them. And as of now, I have two friends I'm concered about. Gen, and one of my real life BFF's. So please, please leave him alone... *Sighs* IDK what more I can do for him anymore, since I can't even be there for him in real life, like I can for my other friends.. Miho the Cat 02:12, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

... Please, if you are, don't ignore me.. can you do me a favor, and at least leave Gen alone for a week? I'm leaving for my vacation tomorrow, and it would be really nice of you to give both of us a vacation. I need to destress with all my real life drama, and Gen really needs some peace in his life, or there's no way he's ever going to get back to normal. *Sighs* He needs a vacation more than I do... Please, Kag.. I'd ask to be friends, but IDK how you veiw me, and I wouldn't blame you if you hate me. I'd love to be friends, but IDT I can as long as you're making Gen's life even harder for him.. please listen to me Kag, and try to understand... please... IDK what else I can do.. Miho the Cat 04:12, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thank you.. Miho the Cat 04:31, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Okie dokie. I might as well take a look at the skin later as well, if I remember. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 17:59, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Probably. How about this: I'll try making the skin look similar to that other Wiki of mine I told you about, and let me know what you think of it. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:03, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Welp, I've managed to get most of the blue parts of the Monobook skin red, but I'm still having a bit of trouble figuring out how to change the ones I keep missing. Also, I need some ideas on what would be a good "red link" color since, as you can see, I've made red links for existing pages on here. If you can help out, then that's be really appreciated. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:34, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Let's try pink and see how that looks. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:22, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Did you try refreshing your Internet Browser? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:24, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I thought that you were talking about NON-existing links? And I think grey text is fine, it's a neutral-ish color. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

There's actually a few non-existing links under the header "Dear dear dear..." on this Talk page. And ya, that's what I thought. Like I said on the KFL Talk page: What I'm aiming for when it comes to a default skin is a mostly neutral look. The whole reason the red, purple and pink colors are here are to give certain links and objects highlights, so they can be seen easier. I also chose them because I think they won't hamper the neutral appearance of the skin too much, but that's just me. You can suggest some other colors if you want. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 20:38, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

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